18 May 2011 @ 12:16 am
Diversity in YA in Cambridge  

The Cambridge stop of the Diversity in YA tour, held last Thursday at the gorgeous main branch of the Cambridge Public Library, featured three inkies – Cindy Pon, Malinda Lo, and Deva Fagan – two other YA fantasy authors, Holly Black and Sarah Rees Brennan; and Francisco X. Stork (referred to at one point, by the moderator, as “realism, down there at the far end of the table”).

                                

 

Not surprisingly, given the lineup, the panel was packed. Unfortunately, I was late, due to the fact that I’m one of those people who needs a GPS for walking. When I arrived, the discussion was about representation of diversity on covers. 

 

Malinda Lo started things off by saying that she didn’t think disguising books was always necessarily a bad idea; putting a person of color on a cover can sometimes be the wrong decision for a book, especially if the book is not about race. Cindy Pon agreed that accuracy on covers can create pre-conceived notions – for example, the Asian cover of the Silver Phoenix hardcover may have made people think it was for Asians, or fans of Asian films, when really she wrote it for fantasy lovers. What I took away from this discussion was that while they both agreed that misrepresentation is not okay, there is room to suggest that blatant presentation is not always necessary. One way to accomplish this, suggested by Deva Fagan, might be covers without people on them; though she cautioned that if there is no picture, people will generally default to assuming that the character is white.

 The panel went on to discussing ways to get readers to go beyond their comfort zones. The moderator, Roger Sutton of the Horn Book, pointed out that often, all it takes is one really good book. There was also some discussion about how welcoming and friendly the YA community is.

 During the questions section, a member of the audience brought up the issue of disabled characters, and the moderator pointed out the troubling trend wherein disabled characters are either treated as “magical” in some way, or are magically healed by the end of the book. In this context, Francisco Stork talked about the importance of starting with the character, not the disability. He mentioned that when writing Marcelo in the Real World, he didn’t realize until he had created Marcelo that this character would probably be diagnosed as autistic. Sarah Rees Brennan added her take: “People who are different need to be either identifiable or totally hot.”

 The last question asked by the moderator was: What about the issue of “you have to be one to write one?” The panel unanimously said no (Cindy Pon: “You’re talking to someone who wrote from the perspective of a teen eunuch boy.”) Malinda Lo did point out, however, that she thinks it’s especially important to support people who write about characters like themselves, because in a way it is harder; there is an added level of exposure of yourself, and people are always going to assume you’re drawing from your own experiences.

 

Wow, this was long – maybe it’s a good thing I missed the beginning! But I’ll end with a cool factoid: I looked at Marcelo in the Real World on amazon while I was writing this, to check something, and Amazon informed me that “people who bought this book also bought… The Demon’s Lexicon.” What do you think the connection is?

 

 
 
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cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 04:42 am (UTC)
thanks so much for the write up, leah,
which was great, even if you were late.
and i'm totaly directionally challenged so
i understand. =) this stop was a blast, and
i have to admit, meeting francisco was a highlight.
anesbet[info]anesbet on May 18th, 2011 05:03 am (UTC)
Thanks, Leah! I love living vicariously. Well, not totally vicariously, since I got to see Malinda and Cindy in action in SF, but wow, what an amazing group gathered for the Boston event! I've read and loved (not just liked: LOVED) so many of the books pictured here; how incredible to have all those people in one room.

Malinda's comment about how writing a character who IS like you, the writer, can also be a scary business was interesting, too. Being true to the story, rather than being "safe," seems like the path we should be seeking. It's tricky, though, with all our maps and compasses being so old & raggedy (the maps) & perhaps even a little defective (the compasses).

Thanks to all the panelists for participating and to Leah for reporting!

Anne
cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
i've found that being the only asian YA fantasy back in 2009--it definitely garnered more scrutiny. and assumptions about me as a person and a writer.
A Deserving Porcupine[info]rockinlibrarian on May 18th, 2011 09:52 pm (UTC)
Malinda's comment about how writing a character who IS like you, the writer, can also be a scary business was interesting, too.

That was the line that fascinated me the most, too. That's an angle I've never thought about before!
Deva[info]deva_fagan on May 18th, 2011 10:53 am (UTC)
Thanks for posting this Leah! I am so glad you were able to be there!
annastan[info]annastan on May 18th, 2011 12:01 pm (UTC)
Great recap, Leah! Sadly I wasn't able to make it, but at least now I can pretend. :-)
cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 03:52 pm (UTC)
sorry we missed you!!
Cat Hellisen[info]cathellisen on May 18th, 2011 12:29 pm (UTC)
This made for very interesting reading, thanks for the write-up.
natalieag[info]natalieag on May 18th, 2011 05:13 pm (UTC)
Thanks for letting us know about this awesome event. I can see what they were saying about the covers. But in our multi-cultural society, it's a little disappointing to have to worry if the cover looks Asian that we have to worry that people will think the book is just for Asian readers. It shouldn't be like that.
cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 09:31 pm (UTC)
no, it shouldn't. and it's changing. but it takes rethinking from the buyer to the bookseller to the educator to the librarian to the marketer to the publisher. and that's a lot of rethinking for many gatekeepers.
Chiclee[info]chicleeblair on May 18th, 2011 07:32 pm (UTC)
The disability question was me. :) The panel answered it SO graciously!
Deva[info]deva_fagan on May 18th, 2011 07:43 pm (UTC)
I was very glad you asked it! I think it's an area of diversity that should be embraced every bit as much as diversity of color and orientation, but isn't as often talked about in my experience.
Chiclee[info]chicleeblair on May 18th, 2011 07:45 pm (UTC)
It tends to be an under-recognized minority in general, but I hope will gain more ground now that people are becoming more aware. The ADA generation is in college now, which I think helps.
cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 09:31 pm (UTC)
thank you so much for coming and so much
for asking!
Chiclee[info]chicleeblair on May 18th, 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
Any time!
Caroline Hooton[info]hooton on May 18th, 2011 07:35 pm (UTC)
Great write up and interesting comments. I'm wondering what research Cindy did to imagine life as a teenage eunuch boy ...

I'd be interested in knowing whether people think it's likely that there has been or will be a break-out book that makes multi-cultural/multi-ability books accepted in the mainstream or whether it's likely to be a more gradual process led by critically acclaimed books.
cindy_pon[info]cindy_pon on May 18th, 2011 09:34 pm (UTC)
i'd love to see an obviously diverse book be the Lead Title with lots of money and publicity backing it. that would be fantastic.

and i researched eunuchs but i have no idea what it was like to be one--other than being my own character. that's all we can do as authors, to make our characters as real as possible?
Caroline Hooton[info]hooton on May 18th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
that's all we can do as authors, to make our characters as real as possible?

Agreed. Although it wouldn't surprise me if teenage boys are reluctant to walk too near your house ... :) [/tease]
Leah_Cypess[info]leah_cypess on May 19th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC)
Interesting question. I don't know that much about adult non-genre literature, but I wonder what impact the huge success of "The Help" has had?

I think a breakout hit would definitely make publishers/gatekeepers sit up and take notice. But I think a more gradual process is also possible, if it slowly erodes the perception that a book featuring a "diverse" person is going to be an "issue book." I don't know how much critical acclaim will matter... issue books already get critical acclaim, they're just not necessarily sought out by enough teenagers to make huge sales. (I think issue books should still be published, but I'd like to see clearly diverse people on the cover of more commercial books too.)
ebooraem[info]ebooraem on May 27th, 2011 12:02 pm (UTC)
Sorry to be late to the party--I was away, then sick. (boo) I'm always startled by the notion that a book looking Asian would keep kids from wanting to read it. I just re-read THE GOOD MASTER (1935--about Hungarian country life), which completely absorbed me at age nine. The book looks unabashedly "Hungarian"--why would that be anything but compelling? I remember being drawn to books that looked foreign or ethnic. What's changed?

I'm reading DEATH WARRIORS now, as it happens, and it's clear that character of DQ was fully developed long before he sat down in his wheelchair. Marvelous book so far.
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